[isf-wifidog] Re: [wirelesstoronto-discuss] FON

Rein Petersen rein.petersen at gmail.com
Jeu 19 Jan 12:32:45 EST 2006


Hey Max,

Thanks for responding. I agree with you on FON model - in Toronto (
WirelessToronto.ca) we don't support a fee model of any sort and prefer the
notion of ubiquitous free wireless for users.

But the idea of federating Wifidog users (say using RADIUS) is an appealing
notion and why I CC'd the Wifidog list. I'm hopeful it will gain support.

Rein

On 1/19/06, Max Horváth <max.horvath at maxspot.de> wrote:
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> Well, I don't think FON's business modell is going to work ... but
> let's do not concentrate on that ...
>
>
> Regarding the roaming of users of diffenrent WiFiDog users I'd like
> to point to a document of the Wi-Fi Alliance and its WISPr committee
> who wrote the "WISPr Best Current Practices for Wireless Internet
> Service Provider (WISP) Roaming" document:
>
> http://www.wi-fi.org/membersonly/getfile.asp?f=WISPr_V1.0.pdf
>
> Basicly it recommends using RADIUS.
>
> I'd support founding a WiFiDog Roaming Organization later ... it
> would also strength all of our groups ...
>
> Cheers, Max!
>
> Am 18.01.2006 um 17:48 schrieb Rein Petersen:
>
> > Interesting model:
> >
> > You can be a Linus and offer free wireless to all Aliens
> >
> > You can be a Bill and receive a cut of a charge to all Aliens
> > (Linus surfs for free)
> >
> > You can be an Alien and surf for free on Linus hotspots, or pay at
> > Bill Hotspots
> >
> > But I think the fee model goes against our grain which is to be
> > entirely free to users.
> >
> > I think Wifidog needs to be a federation (like FON) of shared users
> > (so an ISF user can log into WT hotspot and vice versa). I pitched
> > this to ISF but they don't think they're ready yet. It will come -
> > the capability is there if we use RADIUS servers to maintain users
> > and create domain trusts as necessary. We could even include
> > (authenticate) Wireless Nomad users or other domains like google
> > users (provided they offer RADIUS).
> >
> > Rein
> >
> > On 1/18/06, jroks <jason at roks.ca> wrote: looks pretty kool to me.
> >
> > http://www.fon.com
> >
> > anyone else check these guys out yet?
> >
> > jason roks
> > -
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Software Engineer
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Rein Petersen MCP MCP+I MCSE MCDBA MCAD
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