Hey Max,<br>
<br>
Thanks for responding. I agree with you on FON model - in Toronto
(WirelessToronto.ca) we don't support a fee model of any sort and
prefer the notion of ubiquitous free wireless for users.<br>
<br>
But the idea of federating Wifidog users (say using RADIUS) is an
appealing notion and why I CC'd the Wifidog list. I'm hopeful it will
gain support.<br>
<br>
Rein<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 1/19/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Max Horváth</b> <<a href="mailto:max.horvath@maxspot.de">max.horvath@maxspot.de</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>Well, I don't think FON's business modell is going to work ... but<br>let's do not concentrate on that ...<br><br><br>Regarding the roaming of users of diffenrent WiFiDog users I'd like
<br>to point to a document of the Wi-Fi Alliance and its WISPr committee<br>who wrote the "WISPr Best Current Practices for Wireless Internet<br>Service Provider (WISP) Roaming" document:<br><br><a href="http://www.wi-fi.org/membersonly/getfile.asp?f=WISPr_V1.0.pdf">
http://www.wi-fi.org/membersonly/getfile.asp?f=WISPr_V1.0.pdf</a><br><br>Basicly it recommends using RADIUS.<br><br>I'd support founding a WiFiDog Roaming Organization later ... it<br>would also strength all of our groups ...
<br><br>Cheers, Max!<br><br>Am 18.01.2006 um 17:48 schrieb Rein Petersen:<br><br>> Interesting model:<br>><br>> You can be a Linus and offer free wireless to all Aliens<br>><br>> You can be a Bill and receive a cut of a charge to all Aliens
<br>> (Linus surfs for free)<br>><br>> You can be an Alien and surf for free on Linus hotspots, or pay at<br>> Bill Hotspots<br>><br>> But I think the fee model goes against our grain which is to be<br>> entirely free to users.
<br>><br>> I think Wifidog needs to be a federation (like FON) of shared users<br>> (so an ISF user can log into WT hotspot and vice versa). I pitched<br>> this to ISF but they don't think they're ready yet. It will come -
<br>> the capability is there if we use RADIUS servers to maintain users<br>> and create domain trusts as necessary. We could even include<br>> (authenticate) Wireless Nomad users or other domains like google<br>
> users (provided they offer RADIUS).<br>><br>> Rein<br>><br>> On 1/18/06, jroks <<a href="mailto:jason@roks.ca">jason@roks.ca</a>> wrote: looks pretty kool to me.<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.fon.com">
http://www.fon.com</a><br>><br>> anyone else check these guys out yet?<br>><br>> jason roks<br>> -<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> wirelesstoronto-discuss mailing list
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</div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Rein Petersen MCP MCP+I MCSE MCDBA MCAD<br>Software Engineer