Hi Balu,<br><br>It would seem a good idea for you to install the wifidog client and auth server on a PC with 2 network cards in it, and then attach your wireless router to one of the network cards. You wouldn't be able to run both the client and auth server together on
the router itself as the router wouldn't be powerful enough. The only real choice you have if you can't dedicate a PC to the job would be to run the wifidog client on your router, and then have the auth server hosted elsewhere.<br>
<br>I noted down the main install points down here some time ago: <a href="http://justuber.com/publicwifi:public_wireless_internet_access">http://justuber.com/publicwifi:public_wireless_internet_access</a> (also check out the verion at <a href="http://wifidog.org">wifidog.org</a> here as people keep it up to date: <a href="http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/doc/install/debian">http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/doc/install/debian</a> ) but in this example the wifidog client and gateway are on separate machines. While I prefer Debian/Ubuntu, I notice that someone has documented the install of both on the same PC on openSUSE here: <a href="http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/doc/install/suse">http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/doc/install/suse</a> - and the instructions should be fairly portable.<br>
<br>You can find some more hints and tips here: <a href="http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/doc">http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/doc</a><br><br>If you find that you need to host the auth server elsewhere, you can get some pretty cheap VPSs. I haved used <a href="http://www.vpsvillage.com/">www.vpsvillage.com/</a> for testbed stuff in the past and they seem to be OK for the price.<br>
<br>Kind regards<br><br>Chris<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:18 AM, BaluNet.de <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pub01@balunet.de">pub01@balunet.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Thank you very much for your kind help!<br>
<br>
No, I did not know about this project. Tsopema (Rewalsar) is only about<br>
100km away from Dharamsala, but here in the himalaya this is a very far<br>
distance. On indian roads it takes at least 5 hours to go there, by public<br>
bus, so the average speed is about 20km/h...!<br>
<br>
Maybe, it would be difficult for us to connect to this network having all<br>
those mountains in the way ;), but I will try to connect with this team,<br>
sounds very interesting...<br>
<br>
We connect to the internet via BSNL's ADSL phone connection. Well, it is not<br>
as broadband as people are used to in developed countries. The speed is<br>
always going up and down 5KB/s (! yes) to 100KB/s and sometimes the server<br>
is completely down.<br>
<br>
The Monastery got a new computer (Vista/Ubuntu) and is connecting via a<br>
dsl-modem (some ZTE modem, this can be replaced by the WRT54GL?).<br>
<br>
At the moment a little bookshop with coffee and snacks is being build.<br>
Additionally, we would like to offer wireless internet access (hotspot). It<br>
would be nice if all of the 'hotspot' software could run in the router,<br>
because here we have many power shortages (sometimes power is gone for the<br>
whole day, and at night electronics get burned!), so a stand-alone router<br>
could run just on UPS power for a while.<br>
<br>
Because of recent terrorist attacks, who apparently used peoples wifi<br>
networks to plan their actions, indian authorities are a bit nervous, so we<br>
need some kind of access control, apart from the commercial aspects...<br>
<br>
So, I understand it correctly that it all can run in the router? I think<br>
this is amazing: openwrt is turning a router into a little computer? Wow...<br>
Interaction would then happen via a browser, ssh or similar - like the user<br>
could check the usage on a local webpage, generated by the router software?<br>
<br>
I really got a bit of a headache searching the internet - first I heard<br>
wrt54gl is *it*, then I learn there are now several different versions and 4<br>
MB flash might not be enough, just the minimum... aaarrrgh! I think that all<br>
those embedded proggies are so small the 2 MB free (compressed) space is<br>
enough for our needs?<br>
<br>
So, thank you very much, again, I will check those links you suggested...<br>
<br>
peace and happiness,<br>
Balu<br>
<br>
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:32:55 +0530<br>
From: "BaluNet.de" <<a href="mailto:pub01@balunet.de">pub01@balunet.de</a>><br>
Subject: [isf-wifidog] can wifidog and opnewrt run standalone in a<br>
router?<br>
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Hi!<br>
<br>
Greetings from the Himalaya in India!<br>
<br>
I am living in a monastery in Tsopema and now broadband has reached our<br>
village.<br>
Now, I would like to set up a hotspot to be used by tourists for the<br>
monastery to create a little income for the monks and the orphants. Any help<br>
is very much welcome!<br>
<br>
I understand that I need a wifi router like WRT54GL?<br>
There I can install openwrt and wifidog?<br>
<br>
Do I need a pc running to check how long customers use the service or can it<br>
all run in the routers OS?<br>
<br>
<br>
If someone has a bit time to spare to help me giving me tips to find info or<br>
how-tos... many thanx in advance ;)<br>
<br>
Balu<br>
<br>
<br>
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:03:31 -0500<br>
From: "Jeff Schallenberg" <<a href="mailto:schallenberg.jeff@gmail.com">schallenberg.jeff@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [isf-wifidog] can wifidog and opnewrt run standalone in a<br>
router?<br>
To: BaluNet.de <<a href="mailto:tashi_drolma@yahoo.com">tashi_drolma@yahoo.com</a>>, "WiFiDog Captive Portal"<br>
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:02 AM, BaluNet.de <<a href="mailto:pub01@balunet.de">pub01@balunet.de</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> I am living in a monastery in Tsopema and now broadband has reached our<br>
> village.<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi, Balu!<br>
<br>
I can't help you directly, but I can point you to some resources that surely<br>
can!<br>
By the way, how do you connect to the internet from the Monastery?<br>
<br>
And are you aware of the Dharamsala gang, where Yahel and friends have set<br>
up a mesh network?:<br>
<a href="http://www.tibtec.org/" target="_blank">http://www.tibtec.org/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
> Now, I would like to set up a hotspot to be used by tourists for the<br>
> monastery to create a little income for the monks and the orphans.<br>
><br>
> I understand that I need a wifi router like WRT54GL? There I can install<br>
> openwrt and wifidog?<br>
<br>
<br>
Only if you want to install the wifidog gateway on the router along with<br>
OpenWRT. An alternative is to install the gateway software AND the Auth<br>
Server software on an old PC with TWO Network cards, running Linux (e.g.,<br>
Ubuntu).<br>
<br>
Chris Rowson reads this mailing list, and he may be able to give you more<br>
details. You should check out his Community Wireless project here:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://justuber.com/publicwifi:public_wireless_internet_access" target="_blank">http://justuber.com/publicwifi:public_wireless_internet_access</a><br>
<br>
<br>
> Do I need a pc running to check how long customers use the service or can<br>
> it<br>
> all run in the routers OS?<br>
><br>
<br>
The wifidog Auth Server does the statistics for you.<br>
<br>
><br>
> I hope this gets you moving, Balu. Good luck!<br>
--<br>
- Jeff<br>
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