[isf-wifidog] [AllianceCSF] postgresql vs mysql, get into the flamebait

Michael Lenczner mlenczner at gmail.com
Mar 26 Mai 17:15:02 EDT 2009

2009/5/26 Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet at viagenie.ca>:
> Benoit Grégoire a écrit :
>> On May 26, 2009, Marc Blanchet wrote:
>>> wlanmac a écrit :
>>> this is my view of v2:
>>> "v1" AP -> wifidog-http -> v2 wifidog portal -> radius backend
>>> "v2" AP -> radius -> radius backend
>> You just described CoovaChilli. If this is what you want, continuing
>> with wifidog is just plain silly (Coova is really good at what it does,
>> and it's main developer has EXACTLY the same worldview as you do).
>> It is funny however to see people suggest using RADIUS would make
>> everything simpler to understand and implement. Unless someone spends
>> most of his workdays writing I really find that hilarious.
>> The mere LIST of distinct RFCs specific to RADIUS
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RADIUS#RFCs)
>> http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/doc/developer/WiFiDogProtocol_V1
>> as "simpler". Especially since "using RADIUS" is just about as precise
>> in the wifidog project as "Using http". I don't think people understand
>> quite well what the RADIUS protocol is, what a RADIUS server is, the
>> characteristics of a RADIUS database, and finally what interoperability
>> between RADImeans just about
> well, I've been implementing and deploying RADIUS (and Tacacs) for more
> than 15 years and for many ISPs. I also implemented client and server on
> a commercial networking product. I wrote some early versions of a RADIUS
> IETF RFC. Therefore, I think I can claim that I know what RADIUS is all
> about.
> I guess I'll just shut off now.
Let's chalk that up to a misunderstanding.  Personally I'm enjoying
the discussion and it's helping me think through what Wifidog is and
where ISF should go with it.  I hope that we get the chance to discuss
this at one of the next ISF meetings.

> Marc.
>> Let's go back to the genesis of the wifidog project (End of 2003)
>> The gateway: Using the RADIUS protocol for gw-auth server communication
>> was considered, and was
>> http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=2364
>> --
>> Benoit Grégoire
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