[isf-wifidog] greetings from the himalayians..

Sam 17 Jan 13:30:34 EST 2009

Hi Balu,

It would seem a good idea for you to install the wifidog client and auth
server on a PC with 2 network cards in it, and then attach your wireless
router to one of the network cards. You wouldn't be able to run both the
client and auth server together on the router itself as the router wouldn't
be powerful enough. The only real choice you have if you can't dedicate a PC
to the job would be to run the wifidog client on your router, and then have
the auth server hosted elsewhere.

I noted down the main install points down here some time ago:
http://justuber.com/publicwifi:public_wireless_internet_access (also check
out the verion at wifidog.org here as people keep it up to date:
http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/doc/install/debian ) but in this example the
wifidog client and gateway are on separate machines. While I prefer
Debian/Ubuntu, I notice that someone has documented the install of both on
the same PC on openSUSE here: http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/doc/install/suse -
and the instructions should be fairly portable.

You can find some more hints and tips here: http://dev.wifidog.org/wiki/doc

If you find that you need to host the auth server elsewhere, you can get
some pretty cheap VPSs. I haved used www.vpsvillage.com/ for testbed stuff
in the past and they seem to be OK for the price.

Kind regards

Chris

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:18 AM, BaluNet.de <pub01 at balunet.de> wrote:

>
> Thank you very much for your kind help!
>
> No, I did not know about this project. Tsopema (Rewalsar) is only about
> 100km away from Dharamsala, but here in the himalaya this is a very far
> distance. On indian roads it takes at least 5 hours to go there, by public
> bus, so the average speed is about 20km/h...!
>
> Maybe, it would be difficult for us to connect to this network having all
> those mountains in the way ;), but I will try to connect with this team,
> sounds very interesting...
>
> We connect to the internet via BSNL's ADSL phone connection. Well, it is
> not
> as broadband as people are used to in developed countries. The speed is
> always going up and down 5KB/s (! yes) to 100KB/s and sometimes the server
> is completely down.
>
> The Monastery got a new computer (Vista/Ubuntu) and is connecting via a
> dsl-modem (some ZTE modem, this can be replaced by the WRT54GL?).
>
> At the moment a little bookshop with coffee and snacks is being build.
> Additionally, we would like to offer wireless internet access (hotspot). It
> would be nice if all of the 'hotspot' software could run in the router,
> because here we have many power shortages (sometimes power is gone for the
> whole day, and at night electronics get burned!), so a stand-alone router
> could run just on UPS power for a while.
>
> Because of recent terrorist attacks, who apparently used peoples wifi
> networks to plan their actions, indian authorities are a bit nervous, so we
> need some kind of access control, apart from the commercial aspects...
>
> So, I understand it correctly that it all can run in the router? I think
> this is amazing: openwrt is turning a router into a little computer? Wow...
> Interaction would then happen via a browser, ssh or similar - like the user
> could check the usage on a local webpage, generated by the router software?
>
> I really got a bit of a headache searching the internet - first I heard
> wrt54gl is *it*, then I learn there are now several different versions and
> 4
> MB flash might not be enough, just the minimum... aaarrrgh! I think that
> all
> those embedded proggies are so small the 2 MB free (compressed) space is
> enough for our needs?
>
> So, thank you very much, again, I will check those links you suggested...
>
> peace and happiness,
> Balu
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:32:55 +0530
> From: "BaluNet.de" <pub01 at balunet.de>
> Subject: [isf-wifidog] can wifidog and opnewrt run standalone in a
> router?
> To: <wifidog at listes.ilesansfil.org>
> Message-ID: <452AB588B335450AA9B97AF2312DA16A at GERICOM>
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> Hi!
>
> Greetings from the Himalaya in India!
>
> I am living in a monastery in Tsopema and now broadband has reached our
> village.
> Now, I would like to set up a hotspot to be used by tourists for the
> monastery to create a little income for the monks and the orphants. Any
> help
> is very much welcome!
>
> I understand that I need a wifi router like WRT54GL?
> There I can install openwrt and wifidog?
>
> Do I need a pc running to check how long customers use the service or can
> it
> all run in the routers OS?
>
>
> If someone has a bit time to spare to help me giving me tips to find info
> or
> how-tos... many thanx in advance ;)
>
> Balu
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:03:31 -0500
> From: "Jeff Schallenberg" <schallenberg.jeff at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [isf-wifidog] can wifidog and opnewrt run standalone in a
> router?
> To: BaluNet.de <tashi_drolma at yahoo.com>, "WiFiDog Captive Portal"
> <wifidog at listes.ilesansfil.org>
> Message-ID:
> <c1524300901160703y7c15670bh6e8ca9013ab3b123 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:02 AM, BaluNet.de <pub01 at balunet.de> wrote:
>
> > I am living in a monastery in Tsopema and now broadband has reached our
> > village.
>
>
>  Hi, Balu!
>
> I can't help you directly, but I can point you to some resources that
> surely
> can!
> By the way, how do you connect to the internet from the Monastery?
>
> And are you aware of the Dharamsala gang, where Yahel and friends have set
> up a mesh network?:
> http://www.tibtec.org/
>
>
> > Now, I would like to set up a hotspot to be used by tourists for the
> > monastery to create a little income for the monks and the orphans.
> >
> > I understand that I need a wifi router like WRT54GL? There I can install
> > openwrt and wifidog?
>
>
> Only if you want to install the wifidog gateway on the router along with
> OpenWRT. An alternative is to install the gateway software AND the Auth
> Server software on an old PC with TWO Network cards, running Linux (e.g.,
> Ubuntu).
>
> Chris Rowson reads this mailing list, and he may be able to give you more
> details. You should check out his Community Wireless project here:
>
> http://justuber.com/publicwifi:public_wireless_internet_access
>
>
> > Do I need a pc running to check how long customers use the service or can
> > it
> > all run in the routers OS?
> >
>
> The wifidog  Auth Server does the statistics for you.
>
> >
> > I hope this gets you moving, Balu. Good luck!
> --
> - Jeff
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