[isf-wifidog] My continuing problem with Motorola WRT860G #3

Don Druce dondruce at sympatico.ca
Lun 3 Sep 15:55:44 EDT 2007


Hi - this thread  is becoming a story book :-))

Thanks for the link to your information.  I already had it in my 
bookmarks.  I also applied your suggestions in the document.

If you are desperate for something to do someday, and you have access to 
a Motorola router, would you mind sending me the contents of the NVRAM.  
I could compare it to mine, and maybe, just maybe get another clue.

More info - in case you feel like reading
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I have been pretty much trying to do what you recommended - get the 
router working without wifidog first.  From my computer, I can get 
through the Motorola Router to the auth-server with a ping.

Ping 192.168.2.200 and I get a good reliable reply all the time. [2ms 
and a TTL=63] [ First response longer 44ms]

So, then I try to ping my Sympatico box.
Ping 192.168.2.1 and I again get a good reply all the time [3ms and a 
TTL=63]

But when I then try to ping Google.
Ping 64.233.167.147, I get a strange reply.  The reply comes from 
192.168.10.1 with a Destination host unreachable.

Perhaps you can answer this.  When you go through Wifidog, the flashed 
router provides your computer with an IP address from its DHCP server.  
Now, you talk to the router, and it redirects you to the auth-server 
where you log in.  Once that is done, what IP address does your computer 
go to.  Does it keep the IP address that it got from the flashed router, 
or does it then pick up and address from the next router in the chain ?  
I guess what I am asking is how does each gateway get determined. 

I can figure out the first router, it sees 64.233.167.147 as an address, 
does not know what to do with it, so it passes it on to its gateway 
192.168.10.1  - its WAN port has picked up its address via DHCP from the 
Sympatico router at 192.168.2.1.  So does that router treat 
64.233.167.147 the same way, passing it on because it does not know what 
to do with it - so it goes out its WAN port off to Sympatico.

Replies coming back are handles first by the NAT table in the Sympatico 
router, and then by the NAT table in the Motorola flashed router.

Is there a flaw in my thinking somewhere ?

That is the part that bugs me the most, since I can talk to my 
auth-server at 192.168.2.200 then why in heck can't I go to the 
Sympatico box and on to the Internet.  I can ping the gateway address in 
the Sympatico box, so my computer sees it somehow.
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Gabe Sawhney wrote:
> Alexis: I did -- it works fine.
>
> Don: all I know is that it worked for me.  I documented everything 
> that I know here:
> http://wiki.wirelesstoronto.ca/router_setup_instructions#notes_on_using_the_motorola_wr850
>
> It's not clear if the problem you're having is with wifidog or 
> OpenWRT.  If you can't get online when wifidog is off, work on that 
> problem first!
>
> Gabe
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I probably made it worse, because when I could not get DHCP to work once 
I flashed with OpenWRT  ( I could manually assign IP addresses and they 
would work ) I decided to add X-WRT in case it could help.  Well it 
helped solve the DHCP problem as that now works, but I cannot reach the 
Internet.
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>
> On 9/3/07, *Alexis Cornellier* <alexis.cornellier at gmail.com 
> <mailto:alexis.cornellier at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     from what i understand, we never did any test nor install wifidog
>     for ile sans fil on the motorolla... that may be why no one is
>     answering your question.
>
>     Alexis
>
>
>     On 9/2/07, *Don Druce* <dondruce at sympatico.ca
>     <mailto:dondruce at sympatico.ca>> wrote:
>
>         My original message on 12/08/07
>
>         Have some clues, I think, but can not figure this one out.
>
>         Router Motorola WR850G
>
>         Flashed Router OK, no problems.
>
>         Worked - allowed me to connect to the Internet (WiFidog), but
>         DHCP would
>         not work, so I had to assign IPs manually.
>
>         Recently added X-WRT  extension - Hey, why not, supposed to be
>         some
>         diagnostics in there.
>
>         Now, DHCP works on LAN and on WiFi, but I now cannot connect
>         to the
>         Internet.
>
>         No clues, just server not available message. (I suspect that the
>         redirect is not working - but why?)
>
>         Went to my Macintosh - used Wireless
>
>         No connection to Internet.  Cannot connect error message)
>
>         Then I directed my browser to 192.168.10.1
>         <http://192.168.10.1> (Router's address) and the
>         address bar immediately changed to 192.168.10.1.2060 and I saw
>         the Green
>         WiFidog Redirect Screen.  I of course expected to see the
>         X-WRT page.
>
>         Using this screen I can connect to the auth.server and thus
>         the Internet.
>
>         Tried the same trick on my portable PC, but no luck - dang those
>         Macintoshes, said it before, say it again..... they just
>         work.  On the
>         notebook PC, as on my desktop, when I go to 192.168.10.1
>         <http://192.168.10.1>  I end up with
>         the X-WRT screen - obviously - but how come it is different on
>         the
>         Macintosh.
>
>         Anyone familiar enough with X-WRT or the whole darn system to
>         give me
>         some clues as how best to troubleshoot this problem.  I really
>         would
>         like to get the Motorola Router to work.
>
>         I have a working Linksys Router, but the Motorola is supposed
>         to work,
>         so I want it to.
>
>         This  is a goodie for sure.  Person with solution, I buy a
>         beer when we
>         meet..
>
>         _____________________________________________
>
>         Sept 2, 07
>
>         What I tried today
>
>         login as: root
>         root at 192.168.10.1 <mailto:root at 192.168.10.1>'s password:
>
>
>         BusyBox v1.00 (2006.03.27-00:00+0000) Built-in shell (ash)
>         Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
>
>           _______                     ________        __
>         |       |.-----.-----.-----.|  |  |  |.----.|  |_
>         |   -   ||  _  |  -__|     ||  |  |  ||   _||   _|
>         |_______||   __|_____|__|__||________||__|  |____|
>                   |__| W I R E L E S S   F R E E D O M
>         WHITE RUSSIAN (RC5) ------------------------------ -
>           * 2 oz Vodka   Mix the Vodka and Kahlua together
>           * 1 oz Kahlua  over ice, then float the cream or
>           * 1/2oz cream  milk on the top.
>         ---------------------------------------------------
>         root at Motorola:~# wifidog -f -d 7
>
>         I removed most of the data, but at the end of all of its work,
>         I see the
>         following
>
>         [7][Sun Jan  2 14:50:17 2000][4900](ping_thread.c:160) Reading
>         response
>         [7][Sun Jan  2 14:50:17 2000][4900](ping_thread.c:188) Read
>         220 bytes,
>         total now 220
>         [7][Sun Jan  2 14:50:17 2000][4900](ping_thread.c:206) Done
>         reading
>         reply, total 220 bytes
>         [7][Sun Jan  2 14:50:17 2000][4900](ping_thread.c:210) HTTP
>         Response
>         from Server: [HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>         Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:09:26 GMT
>         Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/5.2.0-8+etch7
>         X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.0-8+etch7
>         Content-Length: 4
>         Connection: close
>         Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
>
>         Pong]
>         [7][Sun Jan  2 14:50:17 2000][4900](ping_thread.c:217) Auth
>         Server Says:
>         Pong
>
>
>         If I leave it sit there, some more data will run by, and I
>         will end up
>         with another Pong as above with a flashing cursor at the end.
>
>         Not sure what I am supposed to do at this point.  Should my cursor
>         root at Motorola:~#  come back at this point? or do I just quit
>         PuTTY.
>
>         When I obtain the Pong, I assume that this means that my Router it
>         talking to the auth-server properly - but I cannot follow this
>         up with a
>         wifidog-init status.
>
>         ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>         root at Motorola:~# wifidog-init status
>         wdctl: wifidog probably not started (Error: Connection refused)
>         root at Motorola:~#
>         ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>         login as: root
>         root at 192.168.10.1 <mailto:root at 192.168.10.1>'s password:
>
>
>         BusyBox v1.00 (2006.03.27-00 :00+0000) Built-in shell (ash)
>         Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
>
>           _______                     ________        __
>         |       |.-----.-----.-----.|  |  |  |.----.|  |_
>         |   -   ||  _  |  -__|     ||  |  |  ||   _||   _|
>         |_______||   __|_____|__|__||________||__|  |____|
>                   |__| W I R E L E S S   F R E E D O M
>         WHITE RUSSIAN (RC5) -------------------------------
>           * 2 oz Vodka   Mix the Vodka and Kahlua together
>           * 1 oz Kahlua  over ice, then float the cream or
>           * 1/2oz cream  milk on the top.
>         ---------------------------------------------------
>         root at Motorola:~# ifconfig
>         br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:E5:4B:91:A7
>                   inet addr: 192.168.10.1
>         <http://192.168.10.1>  Bcast:192.168.10.255
>         <http://192.168.10.255>  Mask: 255.255.255.0
>         <http://255.255.255.0>
>                   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>                   RX packets:2716 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>                   TX packets:3630 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>                   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>                   RX bytes:259239 (253.1 KiB)  TX bytes:1078143 (1.0 MiB)
>
>         eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:E5:4B:91:A8
>                   UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC
>         MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>                   RX packets:6205 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>                   TX packets:76107 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>                   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>                   RX bytes:1136924 (1.0 MiB)  TX bytes:6273657 (5.9 MiB)
>                   Interrupt:5
>
>         eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:E5:4B:91:A7
>                   UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI
>         MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>                   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:108206
>                   TX packets:71678 errors:100 dropped:0 overruns:0
>         carrier:0
>                   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>                   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:4329503 ( 4.1 MiB)
>                   Interrupt:4 Base address:0x1000
>
>         lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
>                   inet addr:127.0.0.1
>         <http://127.0.0.1>  Mask:255.0.0.0 <http://255.0.0.0>
>                   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>                   RX packets:111 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>                   TX packets:111 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>                   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>                   RX bytes:13052 (12.7 KiB)  TX bytes:13052 ( 12.7 KiB)
>
>         vlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:E5:4B:91:A8
>                   UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI
>         MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>                   RX packets:3207 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>                   TX packets:74837 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>         carrier:0
>                   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>                   RX bytes:320729 (313.2 KiB)  TX bytes:5812320 (5.5 MiB)
>
>         vlan1     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:E5:4B:91:A9
>                   inet addr: 192.168.2.66
>         <http://192.168.2.66>  Bcast:192.168.2.255
>         <http://192.168.2.255>  Mask: 255.255.255.0 <http://255.255.255.0>
>                   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>                   RX packets:2994 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>                   TX packets:1274 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>                   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>                   RX bytes:703353 (686.8 KiB)  TX bytes:141884 (138.5 KiB)
>
>         root at Motorola:~#
>         ------------------------------
>         -------------------------------------------
>         Is this of more help than my first message ?
>
>
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