[isf-wifidog] User profiles in WifiDog

Alexis Cornellier alexis.cornellier at gmail.com
Jeu 11 Mai 18:44:59 EDT 2006

Je suis d'accord avec vous 2.

François dis qu'il faut utiliser du branding qui est déjà existant et je
crois que ile sans fil ne devrait pas essayer de ré-inventer la roue et
faciliter l'intégration de techno déjà existant et utiliser par tous (je
sais pas c'est quoi myspace mais tout le reste de la planete le sait).

Je suis aussi d'accord avec Michael dans le sens que ce projet est tellement
important et breakthrough pour ile sans fil que ce serait la moindre des
choses d'entendre ce que les volontaires de ile sans fil aurait à en dire.
C'est sur qu'on ne veux pas une liste 106000 truc que chacun veux
ajouter..mais quand même expliquer ce que le team de R&D vois dans ce
concept de profil et ce que les autres vois dans le même concept.

Je crois qu'on devrait organiser une discuttion qui commencerait sur le net
pour donner un espèce d'ordre du jour pour ensuite faire une réunion unique
d'environ 4 heures où nous pourrions entendre l'opinion des volontaires et
autre intervenants qui se serait présenter à cette réunion...

Je crois aussi que le concept de plug-in proposer par Francois semble très
ouvert et que quiconque veux ajouter un external provider pourrait le faire
facilement d'après ce que je comprend.

En fait, le concept au niveau architecture de programmation ressemble
beaucoup à ce que philippe et pascal proposaient au niveau de la
programmation de wifidog (plug in) d'après ce que je comprend...et je ne
comprend pas beaucoup.


On 5/11/06, Michael Lenczner <mlenczner at gmail.com> wrote:
> I already registered my disatisfaction with Benoit in person about the
> way that this particular feature was being handled.
> I would have liked there to be a proposal for how profiles should work
> which would have then been discussed before it was coded, including a
> discussion of use-cases.
> I'm especially concerned about how social networking services like
> things like myspace, flickr, blogs, friendster, 43 things, vlogging,
> podcasting, etc are included (or excluded) because I know that Benoit
> doesn't care about, use, and therefore can't understand very much
> about these extremely popular services which speak to the heart of
> what we're trying to do at ISF - finding ways to use technology to
> support community.
> Here's my ticket request for the feature:
> http://dev.wifidog.org/ticket/23
> and here's my post in Novemember (just one of many emails about
> profiles) asking to be part of the decision-making about how profiles
> are implemented:
> http://listes.ilesansfil.org/pipermail/wifidog/2005-November/001969.html
> I don't have the requisite technical expertise to really be part of
> the technical decision making, but I wanted the opportunity to ask
> questions and to ensure that other, more technical people were part of
> the decision making (like Francois - who found out only by accident
> that profiles was being coded today and therefore sent the previous
> email with his opinion - and people from Wireless Toronto that have
> probably thought a bunch about profiles before).
> That being said, I don't want to be unappreciative of anyone's time
> that they are putting into this effort - Benoit least of all.  He's a
> big reason for a lot of the great stuff about wifidog.  But I do want
> to register that I very much wish that this feature had been handled
> in a different manner where we had had a public discussion of a
> proposal, even if it was a short one, -both at ISF and on the wifidog
> list - before it was coded.
> Mike
> On 5/11/06, François Proulx <fproulx at edito.qc.ca> wrote:
> > Hi !
> >
> > Since I know Benoit is currently (or will be soon) working on
> > implementing the user profiles, I think it's important that I give my
> > views on the topic since I have a very good knowledge of the
> > different social software available now and that I'm constantly in
> > contact with many of our "trendy" users who will be using this
> > feature (artists, web designers, podcasters, bloggers etc...).
> >
> > Notwithstanding the usual user profiles fields : nickname,
> > description, interests ... we need to let each network decide which
> > information they want to let their user enter in their profiles. Even
> > though it implies to create a generic database schema, I am strongly
> > advocate that we don't let this feeling get to the user. I know
> > everybody will want to let people see their Flickr pics in a glimpse,
> > see their 43 Things, Places etc... So the only way to do it is to
> > have a subset of the Content plugins, so that we can reuse the
> > Content interface, but without providing a full back-end and with a
> > simple non-configurable output.
> >
> > In other words : we need to create model that will let us create very
> > small and simple Content classes for each "complex" profile field. I
> > don't want us to use the Flickr aggregator here though, since it's
> > way to complex to simply display the 5 last pics (so we'll use Flickr
> > Badge : http://www.flickr.com/badge_new.gne). I will take time to
> > code this part. Same for 43things and 43 places.
> >
> > ***The point is that people know these "brandnames" Flickr,
> > del.icio.us, 43things, Friendster, LinkedIn etc... We cannot simply
> > use generic name and style ***, thus the name for a subset of Content
> > plugins at least for what the user will see (maybe these classes will
> > have certain flag "profile content" or whatever...).
> >
> > These are thoughts on the matter.
> >
> >
> >
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