[isf-wifidog] Re: UI and CSS

Dana Spiegel dana at nycwireless.net
Ven 28 Oct 08:25:03 EDT 2005

This is my feeling as well.

There are 2 additional things to keep in mind:

1) The page needs to work on mobile devices, like a palm or wince  
device. This is much easier with a mobile specific CSS.
2) We need to also consider what to do about wVOIP phones. (this  
isn't a page layout thing, its a general WifiDog thing).

We have a few phones that we can use to test out, but I'm not 100%  
sure what the best practice is here.

Dana Spiegel
Executive Director
dana at NYCwireless.net
+1 917 402 0422

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On Oct 27, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Benoit Grégoire wrote:

>> I read the thing about the tables a few times in the recent emails to
>> the list.
>> PLEASE don't even think about removing ALL tables. Actually we gotta
>> use tables where we are displaying things as a table. For example the
>> stats. There we list stuff - this MUST stay in a table!!! So please,
>> when thinking about designing HTML with CSS don't completely remove
>> tables. There are very useful but shouldn't be used to design a page.
> I don't think anybody meant to remove tables used for tabular data.
> We were talking of the few places where they are used for layout.   
> I'll be
> really anoyed if anyone else complains again we need to remove  
> tables unless
> they have an actual, general alternative to propose.  "Because it's  
> common
> wisdom" isn't good enough.  I presume all the people arguing about  
> it on this
> list have the necessary knowledge to already know why tables can be  
> bad.  But
> we are looking for better solutions not dogmatic ones.
> I personally think that CSS has advanced far enough that it's  
> possible to
> separate 95% of all layout from the HTML in wifidog, and then  
> change it only
> from the CSS. It's going to be a LOT harder than zen garden, but at  
> the end
> of this process, any further changes in the generated HTML should  
> be few and
> far between (no mater if the HTML is in templates or in the code).   
> Such
> changes should only serve the purpose of making it even easier to  
> change the
> layout from the CSS, except where that turns out to be impossible.
> -- 
> Benoit Grégoire, http://benoitg.coeus.ca/
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